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Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:43 PM
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:::> Minutes <:::
Here are some notes from the Oct 24th conference call. Look further below for the original posted agenda...
Attendees:
Evie Barry for Scott Etter (reviewed the minutes)
Yvonne C. Morehouse
Bill Atkins
John Messing
Mark Cleverley
Allyson Ugarte
Eric Johns (submitted the minutes)
Mark: EPA has a proposal going called the Central Data Exchange (CDX). Upwards reporting from the states to the EPA and not in terms of workflow or permitting. Are in the process of procuring network nodes to facilitate the operation. Mark suggested expanding the efforts and involving stakeholders.
Evie: Is there a long-term vision for the is workgroup?
Mark: Depends on the EPA/EC3 vision. EC3 vision broader than the EPA. It is unknown if they would participate with EC3.
Mark’s paper – a vehicle for helping EPA to broaden its vision.
2 sessions – Web Services and Standardization
Evie: 1 hour 15 minute session. 45 minutes of presentation with 30 minutes of Q&A is suggested.
John: Points to the accounting industry as a model of how human beings can be benefited by a standard; the problems; etc. Perhaps Mark may be able to do the machine portion of the project. Order fulfillment became a stumbling block that led to the development of web services. NEC3 could be a broker for these web services.
Mark: There are several different business models that could be employed. The ‘GET Facility information’ service could be anywhere as one example. On issuance of a command to retrieve that information from one state agency, a web service would in-turn first find the location of the ‘GET Facility Information’ function using the web service (could be anywhere on the internet), execute the function and fetch the data for the user. The key issue here is for someone or some entity to be a repository.
Allyson: Would like the session to focus on how XML can make people’s lives easier.
John: Xforms movement is another possible speaker/player for the meeting in December.
Eric: It is important to have at least one public/government person on the panel to avoid the look of a group of vendors pushing products.
Mark: Session should focus on process-based activity.
Yvonne: Not sure if people understand about re-combining data to make new data. Need an analogy.
Mark: Need a demonstrable thing that can be talked through in PowerPoint.
Allyson: No discussion of permitting in the blurb on-line on the forums website. We are talking about a reporting exchange – reporting exchange vs data exchange. Perhaps we should keep the talk in the environmental industry as opposed to other industries.
John: Separating the data vs the presentation of the data is an issue we should hilight.
Mark: Standards are important for making this work for the private sector and showing how it helps the public sector. Return on investment for the public sector is different than the private sector. In the private sector it is a calculation of financials. In the public sector, offices are unlikely to reduce staff or reduce annual funding requirements; therefore the public sector must see how this allows the re-distribution of resources to support more valuable operations.
John: Maybe interactive discussion during the slides as opposed to waiting until the end.
Evie: David Lewis is the CIO for MA – comments from him in the near future may help us better prepare for the panel discussion. We are approaching a deadline for publishing the papers.
Allyson: It is important to talk to the moderator and get this under control.
John: Perhaps the paper can be wider than the presentation.
Yvonne: Focus on the homeland security and coordinating things.
Allyson: Her discussions with Shelley indicate that if we can give the CIOs the vision, they will get the tekkies to do the work.
Mark: EPA discussed ‘avoidance in harm’ as an important measure of regulatory service value.
Yvonne: A shifting resource to other activities of higher value is an important measure of ROI.
Allyson: One goal of the session should be to build confidence in CEO/CIO’s that this is the right thing to do.
Mark and Allyson: The session should provide more education for CEO/CIOs.
Group Consensus:
Perhaps we need to schedule another call next week to continue coordination. Evie will not be in the office Wednesday so perhaps it could be a different day or make sure Eric is available.
Should Mark Cleverly be a panel member? Further panel member confirmation is necessary.
Shelley or Eric should contact David Lewis, the CIO from Massachusetts and the moderator for the discussion. He’s been forwarded a copy of the draft Mark is writing. Perhaps we may invite him to sit in on a conference call next week or in the near future???
Mark was going to add a component in the paper to include justification for CIO's to investment business continuity planning/homeland security.
== The paper and submittals need to be complete by November 1st!! ==
:::> Agenda <:::
In our last call, we became energized by the white paper draft, then did not get to discuss the plans for our conference session, panelists, or presentations. Let's pick up where we had to leave off last time:
> Session goals for December conference
> Confirmed panel members
= December conference session - GOALS? =
Title is Using XML Technologies
"Does a regulatory online data exchange multiply the value of XML standards? This session will provide an analysis of the value of using XML for e-government online data exchanges. It will include an assessment of the ROI and results for constituents of such an exchange that would facilitate reporting across jurisdictions."
(Scheduled Tue, Dec 11, 1:45pm-3:00pm)
Given that this is the title and description already published for our conference session, here's the burning question for our team:
What four things do you think people really need to HEAR and SEE during our session?
Let's start by considering the topic sections in the current white paper draft...
= Panel members in December =
After we refine the goals for our session, we'll ask our panelists to coordinate their presentation materials to achieve those goals. Three are confirmed so far:
Zachary Coffin of KPMG
Zack is KPMG's global leader for the XBRL initiative, a consortium of organizations sustaining XML standards for business reporting.
John Messing of Law-On-Line
Shelley Ryan of Birdnest Software
Owen Ambur, Co-chair of XML.gov, has been invited but hasn't confirmed.
Paul Jehn, Technical Director of the Groundwater Protection Council, is NOT able to attend the conference, but he has agreed to provide some content that another panelist (Shelley? John?) can include. He can offer a multi-state perspective because of his role with the GWPC.
We are not required to have four panelists; the number is less important than our ability to offer a balanced perspective from the private sector and from state and federal government. Detailed profiles of all of our project session's panel members will be posted soon.
Message edited by: Shelley Ryan on 11/06/2001 16:52:05
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